http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ Zanzibar19.com Forums Topic: Fucking Society. en Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:07:13 +0000 http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-2254 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:38:59 +0000 castlebravo 2254@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ right............... http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-2248 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:36:26 +0000 steveoutdoorrec 2248@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ <p>castlebravo Escribió:</p><blockquote>whats wrong with that <br /> <br /> ( accept the ovious)</blockquote><br /> <br /> If you read the thread from the begining you'll understand her sarcasam http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-2247 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:49:10 +0000 castlebravo 2247@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ whats wrong with that <br /> <br /> ( accept the ovious) http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-2242 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:39:25 +0000 boobookittyfck 2242@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ :? <br /> <br /> Ok then. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-2239 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 07:18:21 +0000 castlebravo 2239@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ i like dirtness http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1586 Sat, 05 May 2007 15:25:41 +0000 boobookittyfck 1586@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ <p>Zanzibar19 Escribió:</p><blockquote>Would I be belittling the seriousness of this thread by saying I'd have killed in high school to be molested by a female teacher? <br /> <br /> Would I be a crass-minded prick if I said that? </blockquote>Actually no, since the thread is kinda about that sort of thing. Vaguely.<br /> And trust me, It's expected. You dirty bastard. :P http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1583 Sat, 05 May 2007 08:51:37 +0000 steveoutdoorrec 1583@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ <p>Zanzibar19 Escribió:</p><blockquote>Would I be belittling the seriousness of this thread by saying I'd have killed in high school to be molested by a female teacher? <br /> <br /> Would I be a crass-minded prick if I said that? Would that be expected from me by now though?<br /> <br /> Anyone?</blockquote><br /> <br /> You were like any guy at that age. I even had the teacher picked out. Didn't happen but.......................... http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1579 Sat, 05 May 2007 08:42:04 +0000 Zanzibar19 1579@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ Would I be belittling the seriousness of this thread by saying I'd have killed in high school to be molested by a female teacher? <br /> <br /> Would I be a crass-minded prick if I said that? Would that be expected from me by now though?<br /> <br /> Anyone? http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1572 Thu, 03 May 2007 08:00:10 +0000 boobookittyfck 1572@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ Lawl. You speak fluent <strong>sarcasam</strong>. &lt;3<br /> No need to cover your butt. I'm sure nobody would actually think that unless they're fucking retarded.<br /> :) http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1569 Wed, 02 May 2007 21:30:20 +0000 steveoutdoorrec 1569@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ <p>boobookittyf*ck Escribió:</p><blockquote>Hahaha, that was my sarcasm.<br /> <br /> <br /> I was being one of those uptight bastards.</blockquote><br /> <br /> I speak fluent sarcasam. Just covering my butt from you uptight bastards http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1565 Wed, 02 May 2007 12:07:09 +0000 boobookittyfck 1565@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ Hahaha, that was my sarcasm.<br /> <br /> <br /> I was being one of those uptight bastards. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1560 Wed, 02 May 2007 11:52:15 +0000 boobookittyfck 1560@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ *sarcastic remark* http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1558 Wed, 02 May 2007 11:49:58 +0000 steveoutdoorrec 1558@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ <p>boobookittyf*ck Escribió:</p><blockquote>It's fucking retarded, and makes me angry.</blockquote><br /> <br /> Yup. no arguement here. <br /> It makes me angry too. That's why we get along http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1556 Wed, 02 May 2007 11:47:27 +0000 boobookittyfck 1556@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ And making the teacher seem like a stranger or someone we should be careful of, how are we supposed to trust teachers as people and friends?<br /> Making the rule that says we can't even be alone with them dehumanizes them, and we won't have any connection with people who are supposed to be our guides and leaders.<br /> <br /> It's fucking retarded, and makes me angry. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1555 Wed, 02 May 2007 11:44:17 +0000 steveoutdoorrec 1555@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ [quote=&quot;boobookittyf*ckNo, of course I wouldn't hold it against him (JUST A SAYING), I just think it's stupid that he should HAVE to watch his step like that, why can't he just be himself? Because he's so awesome.[/quote]<br /> <br /> Yup. This current climate of suspecting eveyone of being a bad person sucks. <br /> I was telling another teacher about our conversation and how you have to watch who you hug. She said, &quot;If they need one would you?&quot;<br /> I said sure. So would she.<br /> But if someone had it out for me then I'd be in trouble. But I could care less. If human contact is bad then I'm bad. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1552 Wed, 02 May 2007 11:40:38 +0000 boobookittyfck 1552@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ <p>steveoutdoorrec Escribió:</p><blockquote><br /> Because of busy bodies that can &quot;just tell something is going on&quot; and start rumors a good teacher can lose their job. Believe me I'm sure the teacher you are talking about knows this full well or he wouldn't have behaved the way he did. Do him a favor and don't push it or even bring it up. Make sure there's another adult around or a group of students and things will be fine.</blockquote><br /> No, of course I wouldn't hold it against him (JUST A SAYING), I just think it's stupid that he should HAVE to watch his step like that, why can't he just be himself? Because he's so awesome. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1550 Wed, 02 May 2007 08:37:03 +0000 Pokestine 1550@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ yeah I know who you are talking about booboo.<br /> The funny thing is the teachers can't even mess with our grades because they aren't the ones who mark them. The only way they could force us is physically and even then. The teacher was only a little bit bigger than us.<br /> It's a real pity but I know we can't do much about it and our teacher was only trying to look out for us and him, I don't hold it against him I'm just pissed off by the whole thing.<br /> oh well http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1548 Tue, 01 May 2007 23:27:03 +0000 steveoutdoorrec 1548@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ <blockquote>Society is drilling into their kids this &quot;stranger danger&quot; fucking </blockquote><br /> <br /> What's really strange is we drill into everyone that it's the &quot;stranger&quot; you need to worry about. When in truth most abuse and assaults are commited by people known to the victim. Not all but most. <br /> <br /> That is why there is so much pressure on teachers, councilors and youth leaders to watch their back and never be alone with an underage youth. Or for that matter any youth you have some perseved power over. i.e. student to college professor. Even if a student is 29 yrs old I couldn't be alone with her because there is a preceived power I have over her in grades or being able to influence others against them. <br /> <br /> Because of busy bodies that can &quot;just tell something is going on&quot; and start rumors a good teacher can lose their job. Believe me I'm sure the teacher you are talking about knows this full well or he wouldn't have behaved the way he did. Do him a favor and don't push it or even bring it up. Make sure there's another adult around or a group of students and things will be fine. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1543 Tue, 01 May 2007 15:58:07 +0000 boobookittyfck 1543@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ That's the stupidest bit, these are the best teachers in the state, how the fuck can that bitch be worried???<br /> I hate her sometimes.<br /> <br /> And you know who I'm talking about, right? http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1542 Tue, 01 May 2007 13:58:55 +0000 Pokestine 1542@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ I know, our school is meant to be for the best of the best and they're worrying about all this crap. Everyone at this school was hand chosen, its not like the teachers are just some random people off the street. <br /> <br /> and thanks http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1541 Tue, 01 May 2007 12:33:36 +0000 boobookittyfck 1541@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ <p>steveoutdoorrec Escribió:</p><blockquote>There must have been some scare warning to the teachers in your school that he really took to heart. All it takes is one person with a loud mouth saying that he was alone with an underage girl to get him fired and banned from teaching.</blockquote><br /> Well I'm not going to name manes about who it was that made the teachers like that, but I know Pokestine will know who I'm talking about when I say she's an uptight bitch prude, who is so worried about image, she doesn't care how many relationships it destroys.<br /> <br /> I'm surprised that she would even consider it a potential problem in a school like ours where troublemakers aren't allowed, and everyone has to be mature and responsible.<br /> Having said that, I can completely see it from his perspective, I just feel really bad for him when <strong>he is a man that loves teaching (and he's great at it), but there are automatically assumptions and boundaries put on him, JUST BECAUSE HE IS MALE.</strong><br /> Fuck it. It's just silly.<br /> <br /> And congrats to Pokestine for her first post. :) http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1540 Tue, 01 May 2007 11:54:06 +0000 steveoutdoorrec 1540@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ There must have been some scare warning to the teachers in your school that he really took to heart. All it takes is one person with a loud mouth saying that he was alone with an underage girl to get him fired and banned from teaching.<br /> <br /> In the US Boy Scouts we teach leaders about the rule of 2:1. There has to be two leaders with one scout or two scouts with one leader. Never one on one that isn't in full view of everyone around. All to make sure nobody can say a leader was alone with a boy. Because some sickos have joined as leaders and abused boys in the past. When found they are kicked out so fast their heads spin and they can never join again. <br /> <br /> Shitty world that makes this happen. But there we are. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1539 Tue, 01 May 2007 11:04:31 +0000 Pokestine 1539@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ I agree It's stupid. I mean I was there with you when he kicked us out. Earilier on I was heading down to the art room with him and another girl and he asked for another teacher to come down with us so it didn't look sus! What the hell! We were only going to be alone in the stairwell, yeah like he was gonna rape us in a stairwell in a crowded school! (sarcasm)<br /> Society is so damn &quot;politically correct&quot; now I can't be in a room alone with a male. We're trying to remove the distinction between the sexes instead we're just driving a few wedges in. Congratulations society and thought you could sink no lower! http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1538 Tue, 01 May 2007 09:23:05 +0000 boobookittyfck 1538@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ Totally agreed. I find male teachers especially talk to me as a person and they haven't been given the whole &quot;kindergarten&quot; thing, where female teachers are usually so used to talking to little kids that they treat everyone like that. I dunno.<br /> Maybe it's a coincidence. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1537 Tue, 01 May 2007 07:49:28 +0000 steveoutdoorrec 1537@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ <p>boobookittyf*ck Escribió:</p><blockquote>Thanks :)<br /> <br /> Flirting is harmless fun anyways.<br /> Although if any of our male teachers flirted with us I'd be worried. <br /> <br /> You'd never flirt with anyone under 18 anyway, so... whatever.</blockquote><br /> <br /> I don't flirt with any underage girls. But I do worry that people will think that I am.<br /> <br /> I talk to them and treat them as full fledged humans. In other words I don't talk down to young girls or boys. <br /> That's why they may open up to me about what bothers them or what's going on in their lives before they will to someone else. My wife is the same way. Even before we had kids the teens in the neighborhood might stop by for a chat, then bring their freinds over and then the freinds might stop on their own. <br /> <br /> That's why the boys at scout camp or the girls in the local troops like our family. We will stop to talk &quot;to&quot; them not &quot;at&quot; them. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1536 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:29:24 +0000 boobookittyfck 1536@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ Thanks :)<br /> <br /> Flirting is harmless fun anyways.<br /> Although if any of our male teachers flirted with us I'd be worried. <br /> <br /> You'd never flirt with anyone under 18 anyway, so... whatever. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1535 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:22:44 +0000 steveoutdoorrec 1535@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ Yup, I've wrestled with this in one form of another. <br /> <br /> <strong>A little personal history:</strong> I used to work in a factory, for over 26 years. My best freind was the woman I worked next to many of those years. We could talk about anything, flirt with each other, and joke about how that was sexual harrassment. Just good freinds that knew each other well enough to laugh at the stupidity we found ourselves in. She helped me get over being a very shy young man to the outgoing person I am today.<br /> <br /> Both of us got laid off from that job and keep in touch, if a bit less frequently then I'd like.<br /> <br /> I went off to college at 46 yrs of age and had a ball flirting with all the girls on campus. Female teachers and students alike. It was harmless fun. My wife understands that I'm a fun flirt. (in fact she says that if I stop flirting she'll bury me because I've been dead for a week)<br /> <br /> After earning my degree I was asked to stay on and help teach an introductory course. The first day the lead teacher of the team said, &quot;Steve, ah, ahm..........&quot; and I replied, &quot;I know where you are going. I've had fun the last 3 years flirting with all the girls. I'm not going to jeapardise my job by doing anything inappropriate with a student. I'll restrict my flirting to faculty. But don't be surprised that I'll know all the girls names in a week and not know some of the guys at the end of the semester.&quot;<br /> That's how I am and how it will always be. <br /> <br /> On top of this I empathise with people's emotions and feel that hugs should be given and recieved as needed. Can't help this either as I come from a family that hugs. <br /> <br /> <strong>So, where does all this fit into this thread? </strong><br /> I have to watch my step and leave the door open if a female student stops in at my office to talk. It's ok to close it when talking to a male student. I guess because I'm not gay that's ok. If I was a known gay male would this be reversed? <br /> <br /> Can't hug a female if they are down, even in public, because someone might see me from across campus and think I'm having sex with that girl. The female student's know they can talk to me about anything because I talk to them and look them in the eye when I do. In fact all women that know me know this. But some busy body that doesn't know it or dislikes me or that student could cause trouble. Small campus (900 students) breeds fast rumors. <br /> <br /> I agree that it's a crock of shit that we have to live in fear of what others might think, in their small minds, what we are doing is wrong. People are quick to believe the worst in others without need for concrete proof. How to solve it I have no idea. But I'll still hug someone that really needs it because I'm human and know that just that one thing can turn a shitty day into something better.<br /> <br /> Here's your hug ( ) enjoy. http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/topic/251#post-1534 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:28:01 +0000 boobookittyfck 1534@http://www.zanzibar19.com/forums/ What is with society and its fucked up rules?<br /> Kay, so for some reason, I usually find male teachers easier to talk to, not that I don't talk to female teachers, but for some reason, all my teacher friends and coucellors for the last 5 years have been men. Maybe coincidence, maybe it's cause female teachers are bitchy (I don't think that, but maybe deep down I can't relate to them or something...), and it's not something I seek out to do, I just end up making better friends with male teachers.<br /> Now in my school, there are about 6 male teachers, and out of them I'm friends with 4. The others I just don't know. <br /> <br /> Today after school (it was like 6pm) me and Pokestine were standing talking to eachother in the foyer of the school. We were waiting for our rides home, and were the only two students left in the school. The only teacher was one of the male teachers (fucking great guy, I adore him), and as soon as he realised we were the only three people in the school, he kicked me and my friend out. <br /> Now, we're both 16 (I think she is). We're both mature, as is the teacher (well...), but because &quot;it would look weird&quot; we had to leave.<br /> <br /> I get why it would look odd, but it was a brightly lit room, we were together infront of double glass doors, and HE WASN'T EVEN IN THE SAME ROOM. It's fucking ridiculous. Just because he's an older guy, he can't be alone in the same BUILDING as two under age girls? WHAT THE FUCK!?<br /> That's pretty much the final straw. It's a little thing, but it's fucking stupid. <br /> <br /> Now, just for the record, I've been to 5 schools, known HUNDREDS of teachers, at least a hundred male ones, and not one of them has ever tried to touch me in a dirty way. <br /> A couple of years ago I was bawling my eyes out and wanted to be alone to talk to the only person I trusted at the time (my teacher), and we had to sit in full view of all the other teachers and students so it couldn't be construed as inappropriate. Not only that, but he didn't feel like he would even be allowed to put a hand on my shoulder to comfort me, so I pretty much just had to sit there and cry infront of me while he said &quot;there there&quot;.<br /> <br /> COME THE FUCK ON AND WAKE UP TO YOURSELVES.<br /> I have tonnes of older male friends. I still call one of my old teachers to talk to him, I write to 3 others (ZOMG MEN!!! ON DA INTERNETS!!! :O ), and there has never ever been a problem.<br /> The only time I have ever been touched inappropriately (I'll put it nicely) by a man was a sick retarded bastard that my dad worked with, who had basically been stalking me and my sister for years. I always knew he was a perv, and I will always know, just by looking at people or talking to them. It's a thing I have. <br /> <br /> I realise that there have been poblems with teachers molesting students, or students framing teachers and accusiing them of molestation, but jesus fucking christ, it's gotten past stupidity and into insanity.<br /> <br /> <strong>If you want your kids never to trust another adult, you're on the right path.</strong><br /> Society is drilling into their kids this &quot;stranger danger&quot; fucking crap, and it's going to get to the point where children run away from policemen, where only female paramedics are allowed to resucitate girls, where classes at school aren't allowed to be less than 15 people and only female teachers are allowed to teach, the men can only work in the administration away from all children.<br /> <br /> Some of the wisest, most mature, and brilliant minds I have ever known have been male teachers. In fact, I struggle to think of a single female teacher who has impacted me more as a beautiful soul and friend than at least 4 of my past man-teachers.<br /> <br /> Also, if they're that adamant about the men thing, then maybe every male over the age of 17 should be removed from this forum and arrested. Cause like, OMG, you could like, totally e-rape me. [/sarcasm] <br /> <br /> Pull your fucking head in, society. FUCK.<br /> <br /> I'm especially curious to see if <strong>Steve</strong> has experienced this problem at all.